Pentecostals/Charismatics will not be on your own within their perception that the Baptism together with the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation; nor are they the very first to hold this see. A lot of of your wonderful non-Pentecostal evangelists and academics of yesteryear — spiritual giants whose names are joined with soul profitable — held to this check out of your Baptism while using the bible verses on the holy spirit long before there was a Pentecostal or maybe a Charismatic motion. It is actually not recorded which they spoke with other tongues, but they did teach the Baptism using the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation.
DR. R. A. TORRY:
Most evangelicals know of R. A. Torry, an excellent trainer along with a close friend of D. L. Moody. Torry was the initial president of the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. He also served as co-pastor on the Moody Church in that same metropolis.
In his reserve The Baptism Together with the Holy Spirit, Torry wrote: “Religious biography abounds in occasions of gentlemen which have worked along as very best they might right up until one particular working day they were triggered see there was these types of an practical experience since the baptism with the Holy Spirit and to seek out and procure it; from that hour there came into their support a whole new electrical power that completely reworked its character. Finney, Brainerd, and Moody ended up circumstances in place. But cases of the character will not be confined to a couple excellent adult males. The author has personally satisfied and corresponded with individuals that could testify for the new electric power that God granted them with the baptism with the Holy Spirit. These many individuals ended up from all branches of Christian company. A lot of of them ended up ministers, Sunday college lecturers, own personnel, fathers and mothers. What we have now in guarantee while in the phrases of Christ many have, and all may have, in happy practical experience. ‘Ye shall acquire electric power, just after that the Holy Ghost is appear on you.'” (“The Baptism together with the Holy Spirit”; Torry, R. A; Bethany Fellowship, Inc.; Minneapolis; 1972, 25).
Torry’s placement of ” . . . what quite a few have . . . all may perhaps have” often has been the place of your Pentecostal/Charismatic actions. The Baptism while using the Holy Spirit is ” . . . not some thing for your decide on several,” as some assert that Pentecostals/Charismatics train. The Promise has long been specified to every believer, but not every single believer thinks the Assure
Torry also wrote:
“We could possibly have a very obvious call to company; it may be as distinct as the apostles had — even so the demand is laid on us, as upon them, that ahead of we start that company we have to ‘tarry right up until ye be clothed with power from on higher.’ This enduement (spelling Torry’s) with power is through the baptism together with the Holy Spirit . . .” (Torry; ibid; 30-31).
Torry’s assertion precisely summarized the look at of modern Pentecostals/Charismatics when he wrote: “It is quite doable to acquire something, indeed significantly of your Spirit’s presence and do the job in the coronary heart and nonetheless occur short of that particular fullness and do the job acknowledged while in the Bible because the baptism or filling while using the Holy Spirit” (ibid; flyleaf website page).
In his classic do the job about the great doctrines in the Bible, Dr. Torry observed:
“A guy may be regenerated through the Holy Spirit and even now not be baptized with all the Holy Spirit. In regeneration there is certainly an impartation of lifestyle, along with the one who gets it really is saved; while in the Baptism using the Holy Spirit there is an impartation of power and also the a person who gets it can be fitted for service. Every true believer has the Holy Spirit. But not just about every believer has the Baptism with the Holy Spirit, while each believer could possibly have.” (“What the Bible Teaches”; Torry, R. A.; Fleming H. Revell Business; Chicago; 1898; 271).
“To be regenerated by the Holy Spirit is another thing; to be baptized with the Holy Spirit is something diverse, some thing further. This is certainly apparent from Acts 1:5. There Jesus claimed, ‘Ye shall be baptized using the Holy Ghost not many days as a result.’ They weren’t then baptized with all the Holy Spirit. Nevertheless they were by now regenerated. Jesus himself had pronounced them so. In John 15:three, He claimed on the identical adult males, ‘Now ye are clear with the word’ (cf. James one:18; one Pet. 1:23). As well as in John thirteen:ten; ‘Ye are clear, but not all,’ excepting by ‘but not all’ the one unregenerate gentleman inside the apostolic firm, Judas Iscariot (See John thirteen:eleven). The apostles, excepting Judas Iscariot, ended up then previously regenerate males, but they were not nonetheless baptized using the Holy Spirit.
“From this it can be apparent that regeneration is another thing along with the baptism with the Holy Spirit is one thing distinctive, some thing further more. One can be regenerated and however not be baptized while using the Holy Spirit” (“The Baptism with the Holy Spirit”; R. A. Torry; Pgs 16-17 All Bible references Torry’s).